The Discipline Series: Interview with a Youth Minister
I sat down with Jeremy Dolph on February 12 to discuss how he applies discipline in his life. As a new husband and leader as the Director of Youth Ministry at Sts. Peter & Paul in Hamburg, NY, Jeremy provides a perspective that is both relatable and fresh. When I first put the call out to interview people with something to say about the topic, he said, "If you're looking to interview someone who's considering Exodus 90, but who is also a huge chicken and scared of it... let me know!"
I thought that was a curious place to start. So here is the first interview on my blog with Jeremy Dolph.
A: Where do you see discipline fall short in your life?
J: I get excited for something then lose momentum. It happens in a downward spiral and it is easy to get discouraged. I start on an initiative and when I hit the first road block, stop. It's difficult to overcome that first hill. I did a six week workout program awhile back where I had put money on the table. Either complete the program and get my money back or fail and lose it. That forced me to stay focused. My trainer also held me accountable during that six weeks and it kept me in the game. Felt good but after I finished the challenge and that accountability was up, I stopped.
A: Why do you think you stopped?
J: I don't know. Following the quote from Pope Benedict XVI you sent me, "You were not made for comfort, you were made for greatness," I guess I like being comfortable. I feel like in a way, I'm ok being expendable. Like the 301st soldier in the Spartan army. 'You 300 go ahead, I'll stay here.'
A: Do you think this is the result of fear, laziness , or lack of will?
J: Definitely lack of will. I need something that I need to achieve but if I screw up, I get off track. It's like if I screw up the day after Ash Wednesday, there goes the other 39 days of Lent. I think I avoid this whole process because of complacency. It's easier to not start than to get down on myself about starting and failing. We can blame the devil or the way of the world but my will should be stronger than that.
A: How are you applying discipline to achieve your goals?
J: I don't think the short boot camps are for me. I want little achievements to add up over the years. Making the daily sacrifices pay off. I can look back now and say that I am better now than I was before. Events in life have been the catalyst of small changes. I can see that looking back.
Getting married has made me a better man for example. It has changed my mindset from doing things because 'I have to', where now 'I want to'. Household chores for example, dishes. I want to do them for my wife. Before, I'd just say "Hey, I'll get back to it," and have her do them. Now, I don't want to let them sit for her. I got this.
I want to make more out of the day so I have been more intentional in my commute. Instead of learning the Spanish parts of 'Despacito', I've been digging into more podcasts and audiobooks. I'm learning to say 'no' to things I don't want and 'yes' to things I do. Saying 'yes' to spending time to my wife requires me to say 'no' to staying later at work. I know this is small but before going to bed I put my watch, my wallet, and keys on the bed stand so I can be ready to go in the morning. It's given me real practical results and I'm hoping these add up over the years.
Long term, I want to be a Saint. I'd love to walk that path that takes me to Heaven. Maybe this is a matter of pride but I'd love to have a church named after me. St. Jeremy's parish maybe? Should I be thinking that? I'm just kidding of course but whatever that path is, I want to walk it. I need to be disciplined to do what God has called me to do. I'm reminded of the quote by William Law, "If you look into your own heart in complete honesty, you must admit that there is one and only one reason why you are not a saint: you do not wholly want to be one."
A: You signed up for the Tough Mudder, how are you preparing for this?
J: Like I did for the "Couch to 5k" and pacing through training. If I can run for two minutes, I can do three tomorrow and move up from there. I have to start early though, like now, to be ready by summer. The plan was to start this week but I got sick so I'm planning on starting next week. I have a group of guys I had as prayer accountability partners that I'm reconnecting with. They're going to push me through. I love accountability but hate being held accountable.
There are many ways to find and execute discipline in your life. Jeremy has shown the everyday pursuit and application of discipline in the little things. The big and brash boot camps can often psych ourselves out by compare-and-contrasting ourselves with an image of bravado. It can be intimidating and for many of us unattainable or unrealistic. I'm hoping with this series to uncover the disciplines we apply in our life to build our interior strength. So let's apply that to virtue and grow stronger together.
As a husband and a leader, Jeremy has been building and growing intentionally all along. Don't sell yourself short and take a realistic assessment of where you're at.
What intimidates you?
Where are you victorious?